ice cold take: silver and flint didn’t care about each other, the relationship was abusive and Objectively Bad
chilly take: silver and flint were reluctant acquaintances at best evidenced by the fact that they turned on each other when it suited their own interests
lukewarm room temperature take: silver and flint were genuinely friends, how amazing is it that we got to see a gay man and a straight man bonding in such a profound way–
HOT LAVA TAKE: SILVER AND FLINT WERE BALLS DEEP IN LOVE WITH EACH OTHER HOLY SHIT AND ALSO WHAT THE FUCK

lukearnold:

whenever anyone tries to tell me silver and flint didn’t love each other i think of those two interviews that featured questions specifically about the love they had for each other. like, these interviewers aren’t shippers, aren’t in fandom, they’re basically casual viewers and even they saw it.

one interviewer thought flint loved silver more than silver loved flint, and steinberg was quick to say the ‘relationship is meaningful to both of them. It is singular, for both of them.’ that the love between them was equal, that ‘it wasn’t a contest as to who felt it more deeply’ and that the affection they had for each other was genuine, and ‘complicated, in the way that it’s always complicated when you love someone.’

in the other one the interviewer asked about the love between them right after talking about flinthamilton – ‘there was an intense friendship—in a way, love—between silver and flint, too, no?’ and steinberg talked about how there was ‘a lot going on under the surface’ between silver and flint and that starz gave them ‘the freedom to allow some of these relationships to exist without specific labels and to embrace that people don’t always say what they’re feeling and exist in the space that people don’t even know about themselves.’

so, you can view it as platonic, view it as romantic –  it doesn’t matter – because the love was there. period.

bonus toby stephens quote: ‘in the end, [silver’s] the sort of… love of [flint’s] life, really.’

chunchomunos:

chunchomunos:

I miss posting about rawhide and pasta now I only post about politics….

rowdy is a liberal

In my other group I once tried posting about what the characters’ politics would be, and was met with total silence from the other members (mostly baby boomers like myself, who probably don’t believe in mixing fandom with politics). 

Trying again here, from an older-and-slightly-less-optimistic perspective, for the characters I am sure about

Wishbone: staunch Republican, on the left side of the Republican spectrum because he is not uncompassionate

Favor: Republican, because he believes in authority, chain of command and zero consultation with the workforce

Rowdy: enthusiastically Democrat when he remembers to vote

Pete: also Democrat, but more thoughtful and less enthusiastic than Rowdy, because he has been around longer and witnessed a few betrayals

Jed Colby (Season 8, love of my life): see Pete above

Hey Soos: strongly Democrat, with a strong multicultural slant.

Mushy: confused, asks Wishbone for enlightenment, is not all that convinced; asks Rowdy, is more convinced and votes Democrat behind Wishbone’s back

Jim-and-Joe: ahem, I think both of them would vote Trump, because they would believe that T represents them (uneducated, basically powerless white men).

Am, of course, entirely willing to stand corrected.

sidewaystime:

drivingsideways33:

sidewaystime:

drivingsideways33:

ok, like, every flavour of James Flint is A++++, like from James going “my judgement with regards to the two of them isn’t compromised” and then literally breaking a man’s nose two seconds later for making Improper Suggestions about Thomas and Miranda to the whole “I’ve been ready to return him to the sea for a long time” to him leaving a copy of La Galatea for Miranda to- well, you get the drift

BUT

James manipulating Dufresne to get back The Fucking Warship? 

*melts into a puddle *

no lie, the thing he does with Dufresne is probably my favorite Captain Flint moment.

It’s such a spectacular masterclass example of the thing Miranda says to him in the carriage: he is really fantastic at getting his way and in a manner that means that most people don’t know he’s gotten it. And he does it all without saying one single lie. Not even like, a halfassed withholding of the truth.

I want alllllll the fic about him doing that kind of thing to other people.

Every single fucking thing about that scene was great, but most especially, James holding his hands behind his back as he looks through the books. UGH. 

I feel like we learn more about the way James Flint operates in that one scene than in the almost the entire first season.

The flattery! The drawing comparisons between the two of them! Flat out addressing the issue of Gates! Offering up a personal piece of himself and making himself look less threatening! Humbling himself but not quite enough so that dufresne feels like he’s seeing through a transparent attempt at manipulation but missing the deeper one. He’s straight up running a con on Dufresne and it’s so great.

All the while his brain is just ticking away, calculating possibilities vs his reputation vs what he knows about dufresne and who dufresne is going to turn to vs shipping lanes vs the tempo of taking a ship.